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Sam Hurst, 6-19: American troops are the problem in Iraq
By Sam Hurst, Journal columnist
In 1965, when Americans still believed that Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" could end poverty in America's racially segregated cities, a dozen idealistic, white, middle-class community organizers moved into Newark, N.J., to organize the poor. Among them was a young journalist named Tom Hayden. This was before Hayden became a notorious anti-war agitator, three years before he was prosecuted for organizing demonstrations at the Democratic Convention in Chicago and eight years before he became "Mr. Jane Fonda."
Like many of the urban riots of the late 1960s, the rebellion in Newark in 1967 began when police beat up a black taxi driver arrested for a traffic violation. The city exploded when gossip spread that the man had died in jail. The governor was forced to call out the National Guard. After a week, 23 people were dead, 725 injured, 1,500 had been arrested, and inner city Newark had been torched.
Here's what is most interesting to me: The violence actually increased after the National Guard was called in to calm the riot.
Unable to find a political solution, unable to even find community leaders to negotiate with, the governor arranged a secret, late-night meeting with, you guessed it, Tom Hayden. This was a meeting that no governor would want anyone to know about.
Hayden's advice was calm and confident: "Withdraw the National Guard." His logic challenged every instinct that the governor had to keep the troops in place to stabilize the streets. After all, if he just pulled the troops out, the whole damn city would be burned. No serious political leader could turn the streets over to lawless thugs, especially on the advice of a twentysomething radical. But Hayden was relentless.
The troops themselves had become the fuel that fanned the fire, he argued. All the issues of police abuse, poverty, unemployment, had been pushed off stage by the single, rage-inspiring fact that the black community was now occupied.
Insurgents who had nothing in common with each other in day-to-day life found common ground against the National Guard. Genuine political activists with real grievances, petty criminals, all found a common enemy in the very troops sent to save their city. After hours of heated discussion, the governor relented. He pulled the troops out. The riot ended within 24 hours.
Here we sit in Iraq, our third year of war. The body count of American soldiers grinds upward each day, along with the death of unknown thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens. The electricity doesn't work. Clean water is scarce. Unemployment is high. The Iraqi government is factionalized and inept. The war bleeds red ink, and no one knows how to talk about the end game. We are trapped in quaint aphorisms like "Support the Troops" and shrill challenges to the patriotism of anyone who dares to question the voice behind the curtain.
Democrats are so lost that all they can do is argue that the origins of the war were a fraud, as if we haven't long since moved past the debate about weapons of mass destruction. History has already judged George Bush on that.
Republicans and Democrats alike are trapped in the logic that U.S. troops are bringing "stability" to Iraq while democracy sets its roots. Those Republicans who criticize the president - and the number is growing - actually argue that we need to send more troops to create more stability.
Writing in the New York Times this week, columnist Thomas Friedman suggests that: "Ever since Iraq's remarkable election, the country has been descending deeper and deeper into violence. But no one in Washington wants to talk about it ... Maybe it's too late, but before we give up on Iraq, why not actually try to do it right? Double the American boots on the ground."
Ah, the echoes of Vietnam. I think he's dead wrong.
American troops aren't the solution to the problem. They are the problem.
Like the Mexican finger trap that pulls tighter and tighter the more we pull against it, American troops are the incendiary fuel that sustains the insurgency, turning fascists into patriots, crackpot extremists into defenders of religion, all the while making allies out of mortal enemies. Our occupation creates the insurgency and compromises the ability of Iraq's newly elected government to claim any legitimacy on its own.
George Bush is not a man of nuance. He lives in a black and white world. Our troops are good and noble (notwithstanding a few maniac prison guards). Those who oppose us are savages. His arrogance makes him blind to the most basic, universal truth of community.
I am a liberal anti-war advocate. I have almost nothing in common with conservative Christians, or fat cat corporate executives. I despise their political ideologies, as they despise mine. But if my nation is invaded by foreign troops, no matter how they explain their occupation to themselves, I will fight the invaders shoulder-to-shoulder with other Americans.
Democracy is neither built nor defended at the end of an occupier's assault rifle. If we can understand this simple truth about ourselves, why can't we understand it about other cultures?
Iraq is burning. It is time for the late night voice of Tom Hayden.
Give Iraq a chance. Bring the troops home.
Sam Hurst is a Rapid City filmmaker. Write to samhurst@aol.com.
By Sam Hurst, Journal columnist
In 1965, when Americans still believed that Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" could end poverty in America's racially segregated cities, a dozen idealistic, white, middle-class community organizers moved into Newark, N.J., to organize the poor. Among them was a young journalist named Tom Hayden. This was before Hayden became a notorious anti-war agitator, three years before he was prosecuted for organizing demonstrations at the Democratic Convention in Chicago and eight years before he became "Mr. Jane Fonda."
Like many of the urban riots of the late 1960s, the rebellion in Newark in 1967 began when police beat up a black taxi driver arrested for a traffic violation. The city exploded when gossip spread that the man had died in jail. The governor was forced to call out the National Guard. After a week, 23 people were dead, 725 injured, 1,500 had been arrested, and inner city Newark had been torched.
Here's what is most interesting to me: The violence actually increased after the National Guard was called in to calm the riot.
Unable to find a political solution, unable to even find community leaders to negotiate with, the governor arranged a secret, late-night meeting with, you guessed it, Tom Hayden. This was a meeting that no governor would want anyone to know about.
Hayden's advice was calm and confident: "Withdraw the National Guard." His logic challenged every instinct that the governor had to keep the troops in place to stabilize the streets. After all, if he just pulled the troops out, the whole damn city would be burned. No serious political leader could turn the streets over to lawless thugs, especially on the advice of a twentysomething radical. But Hayden was relentless.
The troops themselves had become the fuel that fanned the fire, he argued. All the issues of police abuse, poverty, unemployment, had been pushed off stage by the single, rage-inspiring fact that the black community was now occupied.
Insurgents who had nothing in common with each other in day-to-day life found common ground against the National Guard. Genuine political activists with real grievances, petty criminals, all found a common enemy in the very troops sent to save their city. After hours of heated discussion, the governor relented. He pulled the troops out. The riot ended within 24 hours.
Here we sit in Iraq, our third year of war. The body count of American soldiers grinds upward each day, along with the death of unknown thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens. The electricity doesn't work. Clean water is scarce. Unemployment is high. The Iraqi government is factionalized and inept. The war bleeds red ink, and no one knows how to talk about the end game. We are trapped in quaint aphorisms like "Support the Troops" and shrill challenges to the patriotism of anyone who dares to question the voice behind the curtain.
Democrats are so lost that all they can do is argue that the origins of the war were a fraud, as if we haven't long since moved past the debate about weapons of mass destruction. History has already judged George Bush on that.
Republicans and Democrats alike are trapped in the logic that U.S. troops are bringing "stability" to Iraq while democracy sets its roots. Those Republicans who criticize the president - and the number is growing - actually argue that we need to send more troops to create more stability.
Writing in the New York Times this week, columnist Thomas Friedman suggests that: "Ever since Iraq's remarkable election, the country has been descending deeper and deeper into violence. But no one in Washington wants to talk about it ... Maybe it's too late, but before we give up on Iraq, why not actually try to do it right? Double the American boots on the ground."
Ah, the echoes of Vietnam. I think he's dead wrong.
American troops aren't the solution to the problem. They are the problem.
Like the Mexican finger trap that pulls tighter and tighter the more we pull against it, American troops are the incendiary fuel that sustains the insurgency, turning fascists into patriots, crackpot extremists into defenders of religion, all the while making allies out of mortal enemies. Our occupation creates the insurgency and compromises the ability of Iraq's newly elected government to claim any legitimacy on its own.
George Bush is not a man of nuance. He lives in a black and white world. Our troops are good and noble (notwithstanding a few maniac prison guards). Those who oppose us are savages. His arrogance makes him blind to the most basic, universal truth of community.
I am a liberal anti-war advocate. I have almost nothing in common with conservative Christians, or fat cat corporate executives. I despise their political ideologies, as they despise mine. But if my nation is invaded by foreign troops, no matter how they explain their occupation to themselves, I will fight the invaders shoulder-to-shoulder with other Americans.
Democracy is neither built nor defended at the end of an occupier's assault rifle. If we can understand this simple truth about ourselves, why can't we understand it about other cultures?
Iraq is burning. It is time for the late night voice of Tom Hayden.
Give Iraq a chance. Bring the troops home.
Sam Hurst is a Rapid City filmmaker. Write to samhurst@aol.com.
17 Comments:
Blog suggestion. Could the Bloggoddesses put Ethunk's lonks to the polls over with the other links?
For the sake of argument...assume that the Iraqi people had decided they had enough of the Hussein regime and started to fight.
I think the violence would be there...we just would call it a civil war, and wouldn't count the dead bodies, because none of them would be American. (aka we wouldn't think of it as a "big deal" because we, as Americans, tend only to stamp "big deal" on things we're involved in)
So although violence has increased because Americans are there, you can't draw the conclusion that the violence would never happen.
Anyway...it's just a thought...not a conclusion.
But the fight would be among the Iraqis, Sarah, and would not have accelerated to the point where Irag becomes the new training ground for radical Muslim terrorists. And there would be no artificial national unity aimed at throwing out "big brother America."
India is a good example. The only time the divided peoples of India ever fully unified was to throw the British imperialists. Freedom fighters are fierce opponants.
That's how we won freedom in our country, right? By fighting the British? And now they are our strongest allies. Go figure.
I think your point is well taken, but what I'm trying to say...using an extreme example (same tactic Sam used in his article...which I'm sure will spark 400000000 letters to the editor...love this town) is that the violence would still be there regardless of whether Americans were there are not. Did we amplify it? Oh you betcha...but Iraq is a country of three distinct groups...all of which are tasting freedom for the first time...and one group whose fear of freedom leads them to bring in the terrorists, etc...
I just can't shift the blame entirely on decisions of our country when the actions taken are that of crazy people who will fight to the death to combat wanted change.
I can't believe I just typed "terrorists, etc..."
Anyway...that's my thought.
I think we should invade Canada for its pharmeceutical crop.
I am of the mind that we should only ask our kids to fight and die to protect our liberties here at home. We can't afford to involve ourselves in other countries' civil struggles. That's what the UN Peacekeeping task force is for. We had sanctions in place in Iraq, a team of UN inspectors in there monitoring for WMDs and s strong campaign encouraging the Iraqis to rise up and overthrow their dictator. Meanwhile, the Iraqi infrastructure was intact, water and oil were flowing, the electricity was running, people were working, the hospitals and schools were functional, the precious antiquities were safe in their museums, etc. I don't see how what we have done has helped the Iraqis in any way.
How knows, given enough time the Iraqui people may have been able to organize and do a coup d' etat. One thing for sure is we'll never know. We have only "next steps" to make now, and in that context, I'm with Sam. I think right now, we may be doing both the Iraqis and ourselves more harm than good.
Sam is my neighbor, I borrowed his rake. Sam has good rakes.
I like you joey!
you made me smile just now.
Hey, thanks for putting that Poll link up! Was it already up or did you do it by request? If it was by my request, all I can say is that the service around here is just superb. All Blogistas should be able to enjoy such wonderful hosts! (am I a brown-noser, or what!)
BTW, how many on this blog knew that the Skleeve's name comes from a corruption of the Lakota word for "brown-noser"?
Thanks Bon Bon, looking forward to Sunday! Leeeerve!
Blog gods and goddesses must always do what they are told.
Hey owl,
Did you see what the raging battle on Sarah’s blog. She talks about your secret powers... she is dead on... checking it out!
I flew over, took a look, and left an Owl dropping.
Looks like the fight still in the chest thumping,
sword rattling stage. I'll check back again later.
"Blog gods and goddesses must always do what they are told."
Yeah, right.
Spinfly, does Al_Franchise know about this?
He should don't you think?
I'm mean with Nashville and all.
I say take a deep whiff from the glass Sam has poured for us...look at the color and clarity of it, then take a little sip, let it roll around in your mouth for a while and see how it tastes. Grow nostalgic and recall that this is not a new vintage, it's an old one. We've been here before. Right here at the crossroads. Deja vu. We're only missing one thing.
The draft. Here's my prediction. If the draft were to become necessary, the house of cards would quickly fall. I don't think the American people would stand for it. Do you Polyman?
I think the tides would severely turn if the draft was started up again.
"It's not that bad as long as it doesn't happen to me."
Exactly...or Dylan..or Jake...or Nate...or Kabe... or Lang...or Mike W., or Justin...etc.
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