Monday, September 26, 2005

Cindy Sheehan arrested...

I know we've discussed anti-war advocate Cindy Sheehan on this blog a few times. Anyway, I just read an article discussing how she was arrested outside of the White House earlier today.

According to the article, it was a planned move so she, and others, would get arrested. The photograph of her being carried away smiling also suggests she knew she would be arrested.

Anyway...just an FYI.

17 Comments:

Blogger Spinfly said...

The one thing that I like about her is that she has started the movement.

Its a funny thing, I was younger, (in high school) I was always a little jealous that there was such a movement in my parents lifetime. There was something that unified a whole a lot of people and made them work together for something. I always felt like my generation was a bunch of slackers. The interesting thing about what is going on now is that it is not my generation who is standing up… It is still my parent’s generation. Maybe something that is different is that the people returning from this war are considered heroes. They have welcome homes and they are treated to hometown parades and congratulations. I don’t know what it was like when the solders returned home from Vietnam, but I have heard stories and they aren’t good. I also can’t compare the two wars, but I know I don’t like this war, and I know a lot of people didn’t like that war.

I haven’t done anything to protest this war except sign a petition or two. I don’t think that is enough. I like that there are nation wide vigils. I like that there is finally a voice. I think that Cindy has a lot to do with that and that is why I like her.

Mon Sep 26, 03:30:00 PM MDT  
Blogger Bill Fleming said...

Of course the camera is supposed to be on. The absolute only way I would ever go up to a Teamster goon in the Farmworker days and call him scab was if the news cameras were on. Otherwise they would have killed me.

Also, when you're protesting, you need as many people as possible to see what you're doing. Otherwise, there's no reason to do it.

Mon Sep 26, 04:31:00 PM MDT  
Blogger Bill Fleming said...

Planning to get arrested is partvof protesting strategy.
RTink Martin Luther King, Selma, Alabama. Think first black woman walking onto a segregated bus. These are acts of extreme non-violent courage. Those wo do it are heroes.

Mon Sep 26, 04:35:00 PM MDT  
Blogger EThunk said...

Photo-opts are what politics is all about. On the reverse side of the Sheehan 'are your lens caps off' coin is GW's reverse posturing The Raw Story.

Mon Sep 26, 04:50:00 PM MDT  
Blogger Toad734 said...

Why would anyone want to get arrested. And if they did it just to prove a point why would they be smiling?

Mon Sep 26, 04:57:00 PM MDT  
Blogger EThunk said...

...and what in the world is good politics (photo opt or not) about this?

Sept. 26, 2005
6:44 p.m.

(CBS) — CBS News correspondent Gloria Borger reports that Michael Brown, who recently resigned as the head of the FEMA, has been rehired by the agency as a consultant to evaluate it's response following Hurricane Katrina.

Mon Sep 26, 05:40:00 PM MDT  
Blogger Bill Fleming said...

Toad, don't be a numbnutz.
(my bet is he's pulling our collective leg. He comes from precisely where Unions come from.)

Hey Toad, that's what Henry David Thoreau did and you know it.

(tsk. the toads are not as they seem)

Mon Sep 26, 06:05:00 PM MDT  
Blogger EThunk said...

Toads only smile when the camera lights are hot on 'um....lookin good Toad!!!

Mon Sep 26, 06:42:00 PM MDT  
Blogger Bill Fleming said...

That dries out their skin though.
It is good to see him. Hi Toad.

Tue Sep 27, 07:45:00 AM MDT  
Blogger Bill Fleming said...

I agree with you Bon. What she's doing takes a lot of courage. If you support her, good for you for saying so. Many of the people who believe she's right don't even have the courage to say so. That includes a lot of our politicians. Tsk.

Tue Sep 27, 07:47:00 AM MDT  
Blogger EThunk said...

Shock & Awe, eh? Here is why I support the antiwar movement:

Reports indicate more than 2,000 American military personnel have been killed and 14,500 are counted as physicaly wounded.

Beyond the more than $250 billion already spent on military operations and reconstruction, basic running costs of the current conflicts are $6 billion a month.

We've wasted billions in no-bid contracts to rebuild Iraq's infrastructure

We're generating more terrorists from the occupation than we killed in the invasion

Our youth and Iraqi civilians are dying for a Shiite theology in the South under Iranian influence, and a separatist Kurdistan in the North.

Everything Bush Co. told us about the war turned out to be false. There was no imminent threat, no weapons of mass destruction. Saddam had no working ties with al-Qaida and wasn't involved in the Sept. 11 attacks.

...and this is just my quick list.

Tue Sep 27, 09:38:00 AM MDT  
Blogger Bill Fleming said...

I can add to it.

By simultaneously doing business with the Saudis and other OPEC countries we are financing both sides of the war. We're paying them to terrorize us.

Estimates of innocent Iraqi dead are in the hundreds of thousands.

Womes rights in Iraq have gone backward, not forward.

We are spending more money to rebuild Iraq than we are on our own infrastructure at home. Thus programs like rebuilding the levees in NO lack funding as do other important internal programs.

We cannot defeat terrorists. They are an ideology, not an army. We can only do better to protect ourselves from their onslaught. We need a defensive military strategy and an economic and diplomatic offensive one.

We are alienation many countries who were once our strong allies. Recently in his speech, Bush neglested to even thank people who came to our aid during the hurricane disasters.

Bush's ignorance is only surpassed by his arrogance.

The people he hires are incompetant "yes" men who don't dare disagree with him or their heads roll.

Tue Sep 27, 10:17:00 AM MDT  
Blogger EThunk said...

...and as for those 'womes' rights Owl, this is from yesterdays Rebel Yell:

...Sadly, many terrorist groups within Iraq are now using the American occupation as a pretext to further terrorize society. Women are being silenced, oppressed, veiled, tortured, beheaded and murdered as the war for "freedom" wages on. According to a July 2003 Human Rights Watch report, "the failure of Iraqi and U.S. forces to provide a domestic security has led to an increase in abductions and sexual violence against women." The report discovered that sexual assault was deemed a low priority on the lists of both the Iraqi and American governments, and women who attempted to report cases of sexual violence were "met with indifference by both U.S. officers and Iraqi police." Apparently, women's rights and the welfare of civilians aren't a priority on the agenda after all.

Tue Sep 27, 10:41:00 AM MDT  
Blogger Bill Fleming said...

Right. They never were. They just wanted Saddam.
The whole "Iraqi Freedom" thing was at best, an idealistic pipe dream. Dumb is as kind as you can be to the Bush Admin. Anything stronger gets into "criminal."

Tue Sep 27, 01:40:00 PM MDT  
Blogger EThunk said...

I think Saddam had something to do with the ego part of it, but oh, that black gold...he who grabs the power of the oil of Iraq grabs the power of the Middle East.

Tue Sep 27, 05:44:00 PM MDT  
Blogger EThunk said...

'We cannot defeat terrorists. They are an ideology, not an army. We can only do better to protect ourselves from their onslaught. We need a defensive military strategy and an economic and diplomatic offensive one.'

Owl, there is such wisdom, power and necessity in this statement

Tue Sep 27, 07:45:00 PM MDT  
Blogger Sarah said...

Stop making so much sense, you two. You're making me want to switch teams...which I can't do...for various reasons...the primary one being that Owl would be "officially right."

Tue Sep 27, 11:29:00 PM MDT  

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